" Ich freue mich, wenn ich Leuten was geben kann, was sie stark macht, tröstet, Hoffnung gibt oder einfach nur ein Arschtritt ist, den sie brauchen, um weiterzukommen, sich aus Zwängen, negativen Situationen zu befreien ."
Nachdem ich Patti für das UNDERDOG#16-Specia l "Frauen im Punkrock" (Sommer 2006) interviewte, folgte im Jahr 2010 erneut ein ausführliches Gespräch zum Thema sexuelle Gewalt, was ihr hier nachlesen könnt.
"You forced me & you layed me
It's just your fuckin...fantasy
You made me go down on my knees
The evil touch of patriachy
Choose silence over violence
Violence silence over
Surviving means not to forget
Not to forgive - not to regret LIFE WILL NEVER BE
SHE IS THE SAME
NOT THE ONE TO BLAME "
(Excerpt: Rape is war)
UNDERDOG: Rape is war You were so UNDERDOG # 16 in very deep impression on your experienced rape described. Every woman and every girl is in shock after a rape, she is in a mental state of emergency. After you what happened have understood how you have control over your self-esteem is gained or how you have been through the emotional crisis? understanding
can the man do not really, nor is understandable why people enjoy being in the process of torturing others. Understand the meaning of the realization of what happened, and this is in itself difficult to name the rape as such at all. Man thinks "something happened MIR not! Finally, I do not race at night alone, half naked around in dark corners." Bullshit! To the right times to make it clear: It is not the ominous stranger who comes over you in the dark from a bush and raped, what also occurs, but father, brother, his own friend, uncles, teachers, neighbors, friends - mostly people you know and thus probably trust. Accordingly, great is the shock when the violence emanating from you friend.
I were the perpetrator is unknown, as it happened to me. In my situation at that time I had ever expected it either! I was always on the road at night, had survived 1 -1 / 2 years on the road and was there on the way home to the occupiers Reck. My big mouth shut until then I was always well placed by stressful situations, so I never really afraid. What then of course, was different. However, I have relatively early thus brought out, because you looked at me, that something was wrong. I have always gone together with people in shops because I could not be alone. When people spoke to me what was wrong with me, and I had said the first time openly what happened, it was very strange to listen to me himself. I came with completely unrealistic - as though it had nothing to do with me!
Today I know that this was a natural protective mechanism. Another effect here that it was further told, and I had to make the decision no longer "Should I or should not I talk about it" was.
When I think back, I had certainly never been a shame, das auszusprechen, denn die Schuld liegt ganz klar bei den Tätern!! Ich habe Jahre lang versucht zu versteh'n, WARUM so was passiert. Nicht unbedingt "warum mir", sondern ganz allgemein, wie es möglich ist, dass jemand jemand anderem so was antun kann. Das wird mir wohl immer unbegreiflich bleiben. Um das herauszufinden, habe ich viel über das Thema Vergewaltigung gelesen: Erfahrungsberichte anderer Frauen, Zusammenhänge von Pornographie und Gewalt gegen Frauen etc.
In Pornos wird z.B. eine Vergewaltigung gerne so dargestellt, dass die Frau sich erst wehrt und nicht will, aber dann genüsslich stöhnt - als würden Frauen dass dann doch genießen, "genommen", bezwungen zu werden. Ein common myth!
Or very crude dismemberment, torture, rape hardcore form, whereupon the get sick then a bloke down. That was a hard caliber reinzuziehn me all that and meant that I was really just felt creepy.
I never thought that there is so much perverse and misogynist end. But I had to throw as pure and confront me with it because I wanted to UNDERSTAND.
I had when I was street fighting, self defense, boxing, to gain a secure physical feeling again. My confidence has increased. But the was a process of years.
UNDERDOG: Do you suffer from anxiety today, followed up the experience of violence and you encounter primarily with men mistrust?
time I was completely paranoid. "Do not go too close along the house wall, because someone could hang in the entrance. Not too close to the street because someone might get in the car and you clearly draw.
U was rail-drive the full catastrophe, hitchhiking has be done, let alone, unencumbered by the park at night to go home.
It has annual lasted until my fear, nervousness, fatigue, wariness, but a to name a few-something set. It is a difficult process that can never be closed completely. But over time I've learned to deal with it.
I would like to say so quite clearly that rape is a big crime in the integrity of a person that wants the soul and psyche humiliated and destroyed by violence. Of course, the purely physical aspect is extremely disgusting and brutal. Or do you think, then I can happily rumvögeln next? This is a problem, what is to come about this: How do I deal with my own sexuality? Who can touch me and how? Am I pregnant from the pig? Despite the awareness that rape do with sex has to do, but with power, but that affects all aspects of sexual, after all, was your most intimate innermost tampering, abuse and hurt! Before this happens to me, there was an asshole, which haunted me for several years, came over and slapped. The total psycho! At that time I could not resist myself and was paralyzed with fear. So bad and hopeless that I thought that was not to beat.
I am naturally suspicious in terms of men, I think in a healthy frame. I imagine that I can assess situations very well. Of course I know from experience that the NIE can be a guarantee. Anxiety? Sometimes I've had a queasy Feeling when I meet strange guys. However
have to get I do not worry, for example, to `s foot from any Wixern, drain their macho shit. I know this pain is enough to, but that will heal.
wounded Rape much my entire life in this massive fucking patriarchy. And they know it and so it happens all the time!
It indeed boys are raped, but the percentage is very small world of the massive billion times the number of female population in the war, as well as in everyday life.
UNDERDOG: You wrote that it was not easy for you, a text about rape to write, because you are not sure you were on perspective. Can you imagine to describe rape from the viewpoint of the perpetrator, as NIRVANA (Polly), FALCO (Jeanny), Hüsker Dü (Diane) have been or will be passed over in this view, the sexual violence?
Of course not! What is it? I do not put yourself in love with the perspective of the perpetrators. It really interested me shit about the reasons someone has or pretends to do something. This is absolutely reprehensible, because it leads to justify the act in some way. This, in my opinion, wrong! I had wondered if I made my point sing, as it were, personal experiences, or better, you or we say to other women and girls can identify better with it and stir so maybe a little courage and strength from it. Because of course I wanted to represent not only rape, but make especially encouraged that it is possible to fight back. That it is possible to somehow get it clear! With great difficulty, sure, but I firmly believe that if the shock and the pain is easing, the best therapy is to fight back. to stop existing lousy violent situations, to trust that their own impressions and self-imposed limits and with little things count . Start NO MEANS NO - no matter what is at stake.
to the Nirvana song "Polly" I must say that this is very different, quite the contrary to my words which I actually say directly what it is and therefore not really possible interpretations leave open. Man has not always come with the door into the house, but in this case, I think `s better to make it so that there be no misunderstanding as it could be meant. For to leave open whether this is for or against rape, I find it very worrying! In "Polly" it's about a 14 year old girl, according to a punk concert `87 abducted and raped, tortured with soldering irons and blades wird und nur dadurch entkommt, dass sie mit dem Peiniger "flirtet". Ja, es gibt Situationen, in denen es Frauen gelungen ist, somit den Täter abzulenken und zu entkommen -was gut ist- aber ich finde, die Ruhe -die der Song ausströmt- seltsam. Der Herzschlag des Mädchens wird wohl etwas schneller gewesen sein. Ich fand früher den NIRVANA Song "Rape me" auch schlimm: " Rape me, Rape me again, Am I the only one ?"
Mag sein, dass das ironisch gemeint ist oder dass Vergewaltigung möglich ist und passieren kann.
Ich denke nicht, dass alle, denen so was passiert ist, irgendwie weiter hilft. Aber mal davon abgesehen, dass ich NIRVANA nicht unterstelle, dass sie Vergewaltigung ernsthaft gut finden, sehe ich doch die Gefahr, da suggeriert wird, dass jemand ganz ruhig und schön von sich gibt: "Vergewaltige mich!"
Anders bei Hüsker Dü . Also mal ehrlich, ich weiß nicht, was sie mit dem Song "Diane" bezwecken:
" We could cruise down Robert Street all night long
But I think I'll just rape you, and kill you instead "
Das ist so nebenbei erwähnt, als wäre es das natürlichste der Welt und ganz normal.
Das is so wie Zappa:
" I got a cheerleader here wants to help with my paper
Let her do all the work n maybe later I'll rape her "
(Bobby Brown)
MAYBE???? Ist Vergewaltigung schon so eine langweilige Sache, die man(n) evtl. nebenbei mal abzieht? Ich weiß, jetzt werden viele schreien: das ist doch ganz klar ironisch gemeint auf die amerikanische Gesellschaft. Ja und? Fuck you! Hat schon mal jemand daran gedacht wie Menschen sich fühlen, die das erleben mussten, dass Frauen sich unsicher fühlen, weil Männer denken: " Ach das ist ja ganz normal, was wollen die denn? "
Ich habe mich jedenfalls - abgesehen davon, dass es natürlich kein "typischer Vergewaltigungsong" ist- trotzdem früher schon immer bei dieser Line of text felt extremely uncomfortable. And then this relaxed "kind" to Mucke - No, thanks! So I get there Kotzreiz and aggression.
Or at "Jeanny 2" by FALCO 's goes about to prove that the man is the victim.
" Jeanny lives that comes from the text and the video clearly part II of 'Jeanny' in the fall to prove that the husband is the real victim. No wonder he gets to the conclusion of Jeanny made fully ready in the loony bin, but more will not betray . " (Falco to the youth magazine Bravo, 1986)
or ANTI NOWHERE LEAGUE:
"I'll come to you all dressed in leather
I will lay my hands upon your ch-ch-chin
Be still don't you fight me
Or I will tie you to your bed
I am the creature of the night
When you say it's alright
I'll be there to turn you on
I will be the beast within your head
I will be your fantasy in bed
And I've been good
And I've been bad
I've been so so bad"
(TALK DIRTY TO ME)
Sei still, sonst fessel ich dich ans Bett!
Dieses Beispiel fiel mir gerade ein, nur um aufzuzeigen, glorification of violence - or at least acceptance occurs everywhere. Also in Punk Rock!
" Free will 'is not a film' about 'an issue in this case perhaps physical and mental rape. It is not a" problem film. "But rather a kind trip where we go with two people resolutely to the end. For better or for worse. "
(Matthias Glasner)
UNDERDOG: If reproduced from the perspective of the perpetrator of rape is, but there is also the danger that suggests an understanding of the offender und die Straftat nicht als Grenzüberschreitung angesehen wird. Beim Film "Der freie Wille" bspw. werden sämtliche Auseinandersetzungen der letzten Jahrzehnte zum Thema sexualisierte Gewalt übergangen und viele Betroffene quälen sich mit einer Mitschuld und Schamgefühlen...
Also ich habe den Film nicht gesehen. Die Videoeindrücke und Reviews haben mir gereicht. Daraus ziehe ich jetzt mein Fazit. Ich halte da nicht viel von, denn es verharmlost die ganze Sache. Auch die Beschreibung des Regisseurs Matthias Glasner, es wäre kein Film über sexuelle Gewalt, sondern "nur" die Darstellung zweier Menschen mit ihren Konflikten. Der hat sie doch nicht alle! Wenn der Film wie beschrieben damit BEGINNT, dass eine Frau raped brutal fashion is to be rolled down then gagged and tied up like a piece of junk the dunes, then that gives me only horror and disgust. I want to hear any crap in any way that the rapist had a difficult childhood, which the act is justified
UNDERDOG. You have indeed dealt with words and deeds with the experience. Nevertheless, many patients fear that they encountered distrust and justify sacrifices. Is it important to always have to talk about the Impressed? How can stereotypes of victims that is self-blame, overcome?
long as patriarchal structures in society are not removed and destroyed, this stereotyping is not only tolerated, but by advertising, movies, music, even encouraged and supported. Laws are always on the side of the perpetrators, so it is not surprising that many women do not run to the cops, the latter also belong to the sexist system to get their views and questions to be delivered. Not to mention the questioning in court, where almost exclusively the moral "cleanliness" of the woman is being questioned. Then I would speak of a further rape, suggesting these women, they were to blame for the fact responsibility, which clearly does not correspond to the facts. I am of the opinion that a woman can also be nude - though still far no one has the right to touch her, if she does not want.
It is up to each woman to speak about the rape. For me it was / is it beneficial to talk about it. Of course, only when and with whom I want. It is also important that everything that happened after, and in my eyes, threatening, seriously. But this I must also express. If you're at the point where you're aware that you have no guilt about it is the first step and does not hurt as much, if any of you wankers do not believe. That they all just their Verdreh'n favor, to make you gag is obvious. If you and a few good friends believe that helps raise the self-doubt at some point over the side.
UNDERDOG: A central role in the explanation of rape is playing the social instinct theory. She claims that men succumb to a sensory overload of impressions, as shown underwear commercials, short skirts, etc., because they can not control their impulses. It is a confrontation between reason and instinct. The perpetrator is the victim, the rape victim is partly to blame herbeiargumentiert ("If she had not dressed so sexy, then he could keep his impulses under control "). Do you believe in a just penalty for sex offenders?
That would assume so, that women have no shoot! What an arrogance, if only to assign a physical urges and women one to talk.
How unusual but suddenly that admit to men that they control with their mind their behavior can not, of yet else-is in everything controlled-operating properly. I am surprised that they would volunteer to be stupid . However, do not stand up when they are "dumb" that to maintain their patriarchal power structures . Use Impulsiveness is both male and female. If I'm horny, I'll run around but hardly umhaun snatch the first-best, and necessary for my sexual gratification. It is totally absurd in my mind that I leave it and enjoy it, To have seen someone suffer from sexual desire. And here we are already talking about the most important of the whole thing: sexism and rape has nothing, nothing to do with sex or shoots, but with power over others. I find this term "sex offender" has totally sucks, because that suggests that the "poor" guy could not help it. Likewise, the word "abuse" completely wrong, because it means that it is normal is to use something / someone in the case "wrongly used".
penalty? I had taken years ago in our last Inti the example that it might be comparable to attach to a rapist, his hours to ram a chair leg in the ass, say is perhaps even: "You horny slut" or something - would roughly comparable to the situation of women in a rape because it is delivered and left when she's creating for the rest of her life, a survivor. This word sums it up better than the term victim. The moment where rape happens, maybe, but after that you are survivors. It is also important whether it is a body part or object that is used for penetration, but given the fact that nothing will ever be the same, you massive stress, anxiety, bewilderment, problems, build relationships, you anybody dare and struggle - are exposed to with yourself, it's probably harmless. Otherwise tail shot off, no idea. At least, they should be banished from their own social structures! There really is no reason why we should be forgiving of misogynists in any form or scene! Misogyny has nothing to do with instincts, because if a panty from advertising (crisp, young ...) really mean that women of different Age, ethnicity, body mass are raped? 80-year olds and babies a month. Yes something like that happens. Every day. Everywhere. We have to take, despite fear and uncertainty, the fight against it. We are talking about our lives.
Media sensory overload I also (if it were at least short skirts for underwear ads, but women have so her ass for everything hold out. Instead of the "poor, overstimulated men" to be regretted, we should draw our times purely as it is, every day on every corner Screwdrivers, yogurt, typewriters, shampoo, tires, jewelry, meat and chocolate ... with female body parts decorated to see which have to do with the product at all. No man needs to Boobs car advertising. Or is it?
If one is too typical "male" products are brainless women / body parts that move with this stupid, empty, devotional expression infected, but behind it to create an image of women by the entire female population completely hollow, stupid , annoying and available. Amazing that just because the sales will boost!
is transferred Unfortunately this image of women in the reality, and that leads to conflict is clear. Man (n) can hold from women with common sense no Barbies . Make Except maybe with violence.
Note:
about the role of women in advertising "sex sells" we already own a Special (# 20 UNDERDOG ). This, let me say again: women are reduced in advertising often to certain stereotypes, roles, or properties. Women are, for example, in the role of the seductive temptress or encourage the purchase of a product. In different ways female sexuality is for advertising purposes and abused women as mere sexual objects shown.
Zugenommen hat doppeldeutige Werbung: Anzeigen und Werbespots haben die Gleichstellung und Selbständigkeit von Frauen zum Thema, aber oft erst auf den zweiten Blick wird erkennbar, dass diese dabei karikiert und lächerlich gemacht wird, insbesondere mit ironischen, zweideutigen Wort- und Bildspielen. Unter dem Vorwand, "kreativ" oder "witzig" werben zu wollen, werden alte frauenfeindliche Denkmuster neu aufgenommen und verbreitet.
Bei frauenfeindlicher Werbung geht es nicht um Fragen des guten oder schlechten Geschmacks, sondern um Respekt.
UNDERDOG: Abschließend interessiert mich deine begründete Meinung, ob eine Vergewaltigung im Film gezeigt should be.
Hmm ..... yes because rape happens, I think that's fine. However, it really is, how `s shown. And above all, whether it even has to do with the plot of the film. There are enough Kackkrimis which appears the "side" rape, purely for voyeuristic purposes. This is of course total crap! I'm just thinking if I can think of movies where `s indeed awesome, but as presented, was that it was important to show that way. After it happened to me was "The Accused" with Jodie Foster, the first film I've seen where it went it.
I was with friends in the cinema and we talked about it afterwards. Well I found that yes, they danced, drank and flirted with the guy has the whole atmosphere was so heated, and yet it was clearly over, it was a rape without showing genitalia or scenes where `s looks just as if would fuck people.
The violence and their struggle against images were shown in short, faces in close-up. The rape scene I got a whole remains very long, but it was not a voyeuristic or remotely erotic vision.
Or "The Warriors". The brutal husband who beats his wife, to `s bed throws and then you see just how he approaches it, abmacht belt, pants on - and then disappears. It would be entirely superfluous to show more pictures, as every knows what will happen. I think enough hints. Not every murder is shown in detail, including?
LET YOU NOT IN WARS!
STAY WILD, FIGHT BACK !!!!!!
courage is all that comes from the heart!
Patti
Patti has clarified their open accounts of experienced rape and the psychological damages that
rape is a crime that violates the sexual autonomy of women .
The rape victim is in fact reduced, so is sexual violence an expression of uncontrolled impulses, but an abuse of power. The mostly male perpetrators are usually not abnormal or mentally disturbed. The goal is to take the woman's personality by being reduced to her gender. Therefore, rape the women are mentally much more burdensome than other aggressive acts. As over-survivors cope with the physical and psychological consequences, is becoming a permanent burden. In most societies, women can not count on support from their family, friends or acquaintances, as is often sought at the sacrifice the blame, however, the offender will tend to relieve. These positions are distributed not only in population but also the personnel of police and courts, so that rape, learn if they are actually shown, only limited attention. If there is still a conviction, the offender can expect to get relatively light penalties. The trial often leads to a re-traumatization of the victim.
What is done about rape? Rape and sexual abuse of women is a criminal offense in virtually all countries. But still, rape is often not regulated by law as an attack on the bodily integrity and autonomy rights of women, but as an attack auf die Sitten und die Moral. Folge ist, dass dem Leumund des Opfers größere Aufmerksamkeit beigemessen wird als dem tatsächlichen Verhalten des Täters. Auch dieses Verhalten kritisiert Patti zurecht.
Beschwerend für die vergewaltigte Frau kommt hinzu, dass Polizeibeamte nicht geschult sind, und selbst Mitarbeiterinnen von Beratungsstellen psychische und somatische Folgeerkrankungen von Betroffenen selten als solche erkennen und der Blick auf einen möglichen Gewalthintergrund auch bei den Mitarbeiterinnen psychosozialer Berufe wenig geschult ist. Stattdessen werden Symptome häufig isoliert betrachtet und behandelt. Die Wissensdefizite und mangelnde Sensibilität bei MitarbeiterInnen von Sozial- und Gesundheitsdiensten extend effective interventions and prevent the suffering of women. Fact: The responsibility lies entirely with the perpetrators!
RAPE IS WAR!
A first step that can help is to talk to a trusted person about everything that moves up instantly. This is a first step that can help manage the experience active. Patti has done it. This interview should take particular courage, the struggle, the trauma of not having to cope alone. Yet every wound needs time to heal. Professional support can be helpful in coping with a rape. The staff at the Women's Emergency help for example, einen entlastenden Social mit den oft überwältigenden Erinnerung und Gefühlen zu finden.
